Joseph Cirincione, an emeritus professor at Carnegie Mellon University, called for the creation of a church within the United States.
“We need a church within the United States,” Cirincione said in an interview on the panel “A Church in America?” during the Catholic festival of pro-life activities and concerts in Washington D.C. Saturday.
Cirincione is a professor at Carnegie Mellon and director of the Washington program of the Ploughshares Fund, which promotes nuclear nonproliferation and disarmament.
“This needs a church and it needs to be seen as a legitimate church within the United States,” he told Alex Roe, a Catholic, along with Carl Bernstein and author and former Trump adviser Roger Stone, hosted by a Catholic organization called InterVarsity.
Cirincione said his proposal had been made by African American members of the church, adding “there is no religion per se but a church within Christianity.”
Cirincione said he believed in two leaders for the new denomination.
“I have a particular interest in Joseph Soloveitchik, the great Jewish theologian,” he said. “And of course, I have a special interest in Thomas Sowell, a black theologian.”
After the panel discussion, when asked if he would be willing to marry Fischer and Ringler, Cirincione replied, “I would be happy to,” adding that he would have to be ordained as well as held in the faith of the couple.
According to Kraig Fahrenholz, a WorldNetDaily reporter and member of the panel, Cirincione also advocated keeping the “US flag white,” which a number of Americans find offensive, and continued “white” advocacy days each year “well past the presidential term.”
The interview prompted Bernstein to sharply disagree.
“So stupefying. What is this? What is this?” he told Fahrenholz. “This is bigotry. This is not what I teach. It’s not what my church teaches. I’m not going to accept anything about Thomas Sowell or anybody else who advocates this kind of thing, really.”
During the panel, several prominent Christians like C. S. Lewis and Paul Tillich expressed a moral opposition to racial segregation, which Cirincione cited as validation of his argument.
“The point I make is that all institutions in a democracy are supposed to be fair and unequal but unequal in favor of God,” he said.